Now I'm thinking that licht is the one who attacked with the light spears thing. He then might've altered their memories and fooled them into being utterly loyal to him

Pretty good theory. That seems plausible. Though, I doubt that's the case since Licht seems like a person who genuinely cares for the people dear to him. I'll bet it's the first wizard king who attacked the elves' village.

I was always somewhat suspicious of the first Wizard King. He was only know for beating a monster that could've destroyed humanity, but that's where his tale ends (so far). He wasn't known for any other great deeds other than that. I wondered one time if the legend of the first wizard king was really all truth and not manipulated by the ones who told the tale. It's just a possibility and I might be wrong.

But Licht from fana's memory and the licht we know are completely different like licht we know has scars on his face and I dont know I am shooting arrows in fog

no its because to the fucking demon, the real sus is the demon

spoiler alert

You certainly do have a point about the first wizard king, but in one of fana's flashbacks he seems to have implanted that eye which took control of her body. So while he certainly seems to care about his comrades, the nice guy persona might still be an act

too bad you're wrong

i think that lichit is one of the demon survivors and now is trying to get that big guy back with that door thing and to do that he just saved people from misery and altered there memory so all of them hate humans

Wow the literally same idea I made that means it is bigger possibility that is true.

Thats exactly what I'm thinking

Hmm, maybe he's the orchestrator of everything and trying to destroy humanity, but I feel like it might be the case that the first Wizard King is the one who attacked. Feel like that's the sort of story they'll probably try to tell, that no side is good.

My guess from what I saw thus far would be that the Wizard King attacked them, some survived and using the magic stones turned themselves into the deamon perhaps, or perhaps they summoned it. But considering they all have three eyes like the deamon, and they did say that the stone tablet with the magic stones would convert them to their true forms, I'm gonna guess that it turns them jnto the demon.

Now idk how Asta's power factoes into this, I'm guessing his power is from an actual demon?

3000iq u got there

You close but o so far

I like how picture can fool us. That was some wild imagination you got there.

I'm tired of seeing Noelle always having to be encouraged by people to manage. Can't we see her being confident about herself for once?
I'm not a fan of tsundere, so I guess that's why this bugs me so :/

bro have you been ridiculed all your life? no , right ? then you dont know how much it demotivates someone , they lose all self confidence but despite that she is trying her best , i dont llike tsundere either but her condition is pretty logical if you consider her past trauma and the fact that some months ago she couldnt even control her magic and now she has to fight a god like fire spirit , of course she gonna doubt herself and be scared since everyones life depends on it

Huh? Asta has been ridiculed all his life, too, because he couldn't use magic, but why is the outcome different from Noelle? It all comes to one's mindset. Asta strived to do better every time. Even without anyone encouraging him, he always got up on his own, self-motivating. That kind of mindset is what I'm talking about in my comment, which I wished to see Noelle having at least once.

And no, I don't hate less-confident characters. I understand the background. It's just that the fact that she's a tsundere, who is so proud of her royal status all the time, but being wishy washy on the battlefield, is what irritating me, I guess.. lol

thats why bro , asta was brought up in an orphanage while noelle was born i a royal family , surrounded by op people , no one in asta orphanage ever looked down on asta and he was never made fun of by the people he looked up too, while she was constantly ridiculled by her own very family , also she carries the weight of her mothers death.....

Good point. Norelle was constantly harassed and bullied by her family. It is common sense to assume her jerk siblings were way worse if they could randomly just spill a glass of water on her head at the party. Asta was barely was a butt of the joke. The church was a happy place for him to live. He was loved by others. He had Yunno and Lilly. Unlike Norella, he didn't have to grow with trauma and constant discrimination.

For me, Norella is an interesting character. I guess it is the writer's fault that makes her a little annoying over time. They could do at least do better.

bro you said "no one in asta orphanage ever looked down on asta and he was never made fun of by the people he looked up"? do you even watched the anime lol....he's been through a lot worse than noelle that stupid weak royal girl......she's just weak asf

Even if Asta's companions in the orphanage indeed looked down upon him in terms of magic power, those people truly loved him and served as his comfort zone nonetheless. Noelle, on the other hand, was scorned by her family in all aspects. She grew up only hearing words that she's both a failure and mother-killer. She didn't have the experience of a 'family' like that of Asta's.

your statement has neither arguements nor reasons , just an opinion. Try using logic a bit more if you want people to listen to you

nah it's just a fact that you can't accept

It literally isnt a fact. The facts are that Asta had a great childhood only stunted by his frustrations of never gaining any magic powers. But his family/friends loved him all the same and just made basically harmless jokes about him in regards to his magic. Noelle on the other hand was literally psychologically abused by her entire family since she was born. THAT'S the fact that you obviously can't seem to accept. Arcade is right, use some logic mate, its so easy to see who had the most depressing childhood growing up.

so you can act like a bitch to everyone when other people abused you? you're the one who should use logic man not ego

Where did I say that? I'm simply stating that Noelle had a way worse childhood growing up, emotionally speaking! It's not okay to act like a bitch to anyone, but it's more understandable in some cases, as with Noelle, who pretty clearly uses it as a coping mechanism and doesn't actually mean the stuff she says. You're the one that needs to pay more attention to the anime bro :')

btw wdym "use logic a bit more" I'm pretty sure if you watch the anime you'll understand what I'm saying bruh

That grimoire of hers, it seems awfully familiar....

Half and half , she owns fire , mars owns diamonds ig , and its split and combined so both can use the powers (not a spoiler , im a new watcher of this anime too)

Asta is just trying to do *Talk No Grimoire*

Talk no jutsu collossally backfired XD

Petit clover actually used sarcasm to deflect all the hate of people saying that is a knock off naruto

Gotta say, they took care of her pretty fast compared to that furry guy. The plot thickens.

probably bcoz furry guy was more of a physical dealer and a close combat expert which makes it hard for asta to deal with while she is a ranged dealer whose physically weaker than him

Bull's thrust

Light magic killed the elves tribe and Licht has light magic, bit suspicious I say. Also curious to who is Licht's kid, my bets are on Vangeance.

Good guess you close

ig Fana and Mars have the similar type of grimoire .or maybe two seperate grimore torn apart and sewed together

its pretty clearly the latter

WHY TF DOES SHE HAVE CHARIZARD ON HER TEAM

It evolveddd löl

Ah! Connecting the dots, what a twist. So Vangeance is Licht's son? No wonder Yami suspected him as Licht. Of course Licht's son would be awfully similar to him. And, that means this is not all just some crazy coincidence. It's more than that.

Also, I think Vangeance's scar wasn't inherent to him the moment he was born. He was just probably led to think that but i'll bet that that scar was caused by something.

Damn never thought like that

please add a spoiler tag next time ><

not a spoiler at all lol

yeah XD I finished the show already. it was conveyed like a fact tho and I didn't know at the time

Dang Noelle's attack is reaaaally epic.. if only it was animated a little more better

Oh fudge Fana and Mars were actually siblings?

And ohh seems like they weren't really sure that it was humans that attacked them.. only assumed so

Fana is easier to defeat than Vetto

why people do not think that actually the first magic king really did those horrible things....maybe licht altered their memories but i totally think they are not the bad guys back then

Wöahhh he killed a spirit :O